Nutrition Question

[Karen]

Karen:
I know research is being done but this whole field was ignored for many years. Just think of my generation where mothers were told that manufactured baby formula was better then mothers milk. I don't believe the companies are evil just sometimes misdirected.
Just for the record I like the big pharma companies, they saved my son's life.

Very true.....and smoking was good for your nerves and weight loss. Now that was a scary time!

[dadmo]

Who remembers the "healthy tan".

[mstlyn]

The healthy tan ..

In my search for the answers to good health, here is what I have found.

The sun, as they used to say, is very good for us. The rise in skin cancer is being blamed on sunscreen itself.

While too much sun at once may not be good, because some people do burn, we should be getting natural sunlight every single day. It's the absolute best way to get vitamin D. Much better than vitamins. The vitamin D from the sun is absorbed through the skin and the eyes. Studies show that vitamin D can reduce the risk of cancer by .. I think it was 40%.

I'm no scientist, but when I read studies that are contrary to what the FDA tells us, If I don't have facts, I lean on good common sense. My common sense said.. well yes, there is reportedly a LOT of skin cancer these days as compared to many years ago. Some will say that it's because it takes an accumilation of years of sun exposure before skin cancers develop.

But what about the rise in skin cancer among young people?

Is it possible that the sunscreen, which BLOCKS what are claimed to be harmful rays, is actually blocking much needed natural vitamin D, and this is why we see so much skin cancer?

I took my 16 year old daughter to her doctor for a physical in the beginning of the summer. They called to tell me that she needed to come in. When we met with the doctor he told us that she has a vitamin D definciency. At 16 years old??? And this is a girl that loves veggies and fruits..

The DOCTOR himself told us that she should go outside for at least 30 minutes per day without sunscreen, because that is the best, and of course the cheapest way to get vitamin D.

He said that it's far better to make sure she start taking care of this while she is young, so she doesnt end up with problems later.

We dont use sunscreen.. But I do tell my kids not to sit for prolonged periods of time in the sun during the "peak hours" which are supposedly between 10 am and 2 pm.

I'll look for a study that I read about this. It points out other countries where people spend the entire day, every day, outside working under the sun, and they don't have problems skin cancer.

I'll find it and I'll post it.

In my opinion, since Americans are so busy hiding from the sun, we are going to be more sensitive to the sun initially. I don't think it would be wise to just go spend the whole day in the hot sun, but gradually, a little at a time each day, allow yourself to get used to being in the sun more.

Of course like anything else, its up to each of us what we decide is best for us. I decided to pass on the sunscreen which I have never developed a habit of using anyway, even when the headlines started scaring the crap out of everyone, making them run from the sun.

I'm 46 years old and I grew up doing almost everything outdoors. Camping trips every summer, fishing, horseback riding, dirt bikes, yard work, snowmobiling etc .. My family spent almost all of our time outdoors WITHOUT sunscreen. While I won't say that I can't get skin cancer, because I know that sometimes no matter what we do, it can happen.. but I don't have skin cancer so far.

[mstlyn]

This is not one of the articles I read about sunscreen causing skin cancer, but I'll post this one while I search for the others.

http://vvv.com/healthnews/dsunscre.html

[mstlyn]

Karen:
I know research is being done but this whole field was ignored for many years. Just think of my generation where mothers were told that manufactured baby formula was better then mothers milk. I don't believe the companies are evil just sometimes misdirected.
Just for the record I like the big pharma companies, they saved my son's life.

I am grateful that my sons life has been saved too, I can be thankful without turning a blind eye to the realities of the big pharma and what matters to them most, MONEY.

If you had no way to pay for their drugs, and no other source to help you get them, you would not get them.

There is all kinds of documented evidence of the hazards of flouride, yet it is approved by the FDA. Pesticides for our food is approved by the FDA. The FDA does not make me feel that secure.

(sorry, I know Im jumping around here, but its all connected)

If you saw someone spray your veggies with a can of raid just before eating it, would you want to eat it? Even if they washed it? I can rely on my own good judgement to know that pesticides are not something we should be eating.

You can't wash pesticides from our fruit and veggies, because the food is grown in it. The soil is contaminated with the pesticides ..

Organic farmers cannot become certified organic growers until the soil they plant in has been at least 2 years with no use of pesticides. Irradiation destroys the nutrition in the food we eat.

There are drugs on the market that have killed a lot of people too.

What parent wouldn't be thankful that their childs life has been saved, however it had to be. Every time I took my son to his chemo treatments I was both thankful, and sick inside that I had to take my beautiful son to have these awful chemicals put into his body.

It would still be much better if dietary changes, environmental changes, stress factors, or other factors that contribute to causing cancer, could be changed the world over. We may see a drastic turn around in the cancer rate. And I am not saying that any of these things cause TC ..
I have no idea what causes it. No one seems to .. I read that it is present at birth, but still, something caused it to be present at birth. There is a cause for everything.

Back to the big pharma...
Look at the cost of these drugs, look at the people that do not have access to them. Even insurance companies refuse to pay for some of them,and being realistic these drugs are harsh chemicals that have also caused damage to healthy cells in the body, and sometimes end up causing other cancers.

We do what we have to do in order to live or save our childrens lives, we can only depend on what we know will get the job done.

People are waking up to what is going on in this country- Organics are HOT, HOT, HOT right now, and I don't see this being a passing phase. Its REAL FOOD, the way it used to be. It is not chemically treated, it is not irradiated, there are no growth hormones, or anything else.

There are specific foods that are mentioned in the Bible that we should be eating. Who knew better than our creator what we need to keep his creation running efficiently?

If we stop and think for a moment, we will realize that everytime we hear about something that causes cancer, it is something that has been altered, or created by man, OR a failure to nourish ourselves with the nutrients that were intended for us. For example .. eating lots of fresh veggies and fruits.

My dad has always been a meat and potatoes, almost no veggies or fruits, man. Doctors found cancerous polyps in the colon awhile back. These findings prompted his wife to get a colonoscopy which was clear. The doctors told her that they almost NEVER find colon cancer in a person that eats a lot of fruit and veggies, which has always been her favorite food.

Eating healthy encourages healthy cell growth-

We know that we can starve cancer cells by depriving them of sugar-

Fast Food is POISON, do we all know people that eat fast food weekly, or more? I do.

Blah- I could go on about this forever, but I won't.

Sorry about jumping around from pharma, to FDA, to organics and the Bible .. I went back and added things that I thought about without editing to make it coherent lol

[Russell's Mom]

Interesting that my mind can bounce right along with yours!!! I am right with you. What is absolute one day, becomes the tabu of another day, then back again on a future date. We too have an MD, Board Certified Internist who corrects body chemistry. She tops my list in the respect area. I would love to see more posts and I also think that it would be difficult to keep it guided. There are so many alternatives around. I love that...have seen a world of difference for people, mild and natural, but very effective. our bodies at their best...what we are all striving for. Let's hope enthusiasm sparks!! Take care, Sharon

[mstlyn]

Glad you understand what Im talking about Sharon, thanks! I know many people (outside this site) that feel the same way, and do everything they can to eliminate chemicals from their bodies and homes, and add more fresh, organically grown veggies and fruits.

I have seen quite an increase in organic products in local grocery stores over just the last few months too, so that is great. The more people change, the prices will drop.

I quit buying commercial cleaners (except borax) for my home too..

Baking soda, borax, vinegar, olive oil & lemon juice for furniture polish-

Shampoo, conditioner, body wash, deoderant, toothpaste; all of it is organic- with the exception of toothpaste, which is natural and flouride free.

The only foods that are not organic in my home is meat because it is really expensive, but I use chicken more than any red meat. Miller chicken, though not raised organically; is hormone, steroid free, and is the cleanest chicken I have found.

I'd like to share a website "The worlds healthiest foods"

You will find the nutritional value for each within the links..

http://www.whfoods.com/foodstoc.php

check it out.

[Russell's Mom]

Thanks for sharing. Sometimes I feel like I am in an ocean of chemicals, guess that is just a reality these days. Just a few days ago I read an article that pretty much confirmed the link between pesticides and pancreatic cancer. Makes sense. Another huge change that I made was in cosmetics. Although I don't use a lot, it was concerning to learn that most of the lotions are whipped up 30 weight oil. Mineral oil, petrolium. Carcinogenic!!! Doesn't even begin to degrade for hundreds of years or extreme temperatures. We rub it into our skin, we breath the exhaust, we eat it as artificial food colors. Lots of new vegetable based products available, fun and eases the mind a bit! Thanks again, Sharon

[adam101w]

Hi all,

This topic too has interested me. I'm 19 and have gone through the 3xBEP.

First, while having chemo my oncologists said take nothing else.

Second, I have thick blood genetically, and since he said to take a baby asprin a day. (There are studies he said that this can help prevent certain other cancers. Although, I am no saying everyone do this without checking first, just what the doctor told me.)

Third, I eat mainly organic.

Although, I must say that still after 3 months of being off of chemo I was unable to take a multivitamin b/c it gave me heart burn. I have not tried since (which no has been 8 months), but I also think that if one eats enough fresh fruits and veggies, God has put enough nutrients in them to be sufficient. Are you all (survivors) able to take multivitamins?

A few books that I've read, and some are scary:
Cancer Wars: How politics shapes what we know & don't know about cancer. Robert Proctor.
The politics of cancer. Samuel S. Epstein.
What the Bible says about healthy living. Rex Russel

I think it is hard because we cannot afford to go through life being scared and worried (Psalm 23, Matthew 6) as it has side effects of itself. Hence why sleep is encouraged in the bible. But we must be realistic, in the fact that child cancer incidences are increasing, not by genetic chance.

I'm a college student and have written some papers on prevention and the like, I would love to hear more from you guys. I am curious as to the rates compare to other non-industrial countries, since their food may not be as altered. Although, in those situations, it is hard to monitor as well. Canada I beleive has some stricter policies on pesticies and such allowed? anyone know for sure? Are rates comparable? Amish communities have lower insidences, although they may not seek medical help...not sure on how to evaluate that either. But they are mainly organic.

[adam101w]

also, isn't reverse osmosis the purest water?