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    Hello!

    I'm curious to know if anyone knows approximately how long cisplatin and/or etoposide remain in the body after the last cycle of chemotherapy. My boyfriend John, 23, is experiencing some mild but consistent nausea but not a total loss of appetite. He finished chemo June 9th of this year. His RPLND was July 5th but he did not have any bowel/stomach complications from the surgery. Is it possible his nausea is due to leftover cisplatin/etoposide?

    I'm curious to know - I feel like everyone is so different, but it's nice to hear from people who have gone through something similar.

    Thanks!
    Melissa

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    With your boyfriend having finished chemo in early June I would be very surprised if his neusea was chemo related. The high dosages of chemo should flush out of his system in a matter of days, however traces of the drugs can be found in the blood for up to 20 years after the treatment is completed. As for complications from the chemo they might not become evident for several weeks or months after the chemo is finished.
    Son Jason diagnosed 4/30/04, stage III. Right I/O 4/30/04. Graduated College 5/13/04. 4XEP 6/7/04 - 8/13/04. Full open RPLND 10/13/04. All Clear since.

    Treated by Dr. Rakowski of Midland Park, NJ. Visited Sloan Kettering for protocol advice. RPLND done at Sloan Kettering.

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    • #3
      I would think the naseau and pain is probably coming from all his internal organs settling back into place after the surgery... It takes a while to recover.. just be patient for the first few months.. I had the same problem for about 4-6 months.... One day at a time....
      Moffitt Cancer Institute
      CANCER SUCKS
      Diagnosed/Left I/O 9/18/2004--Non-Seminoma/Stage IIIC--3X B.E.P chemo--3X T.I.P. Salvage chemo---Abdominal [email protected] 34cmX 24.5cmX 17.5cm---4/19/2005 --RPLND/Left Kidney,8 1/2lb Abdominal tumor,42 nodes removed---7/16/2005 Remission/Surveillance---Severe Peripheral Neuropathy--

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      • #4
        I made drastic improvements 2 wks after i got home from the RPLND. Now..over a year later.. I have NO side effects at all...
        Treatment
        Non-Seminoma, Stage II
        Right Guy Removed
        4X BEP ending 6/3/2005
        RPLND 7/1/05

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        • #5
          Hi:

          It definitely takes a while to feel normal after RPLND - this is MAJOR surgery. It was easily 6 months until I was 100% Also it is not uncommon to develop adhesions after any type of abdominal surgery. This is a kind of scar tissue formation which can cause the intestines to "stick" to the abdominal wall. Sometimes they need to be surgically "unstuck".

          I would not worry as long as there is a general trend toward feeling better. But if he seem to be getting worse, definitely call the surgeon. Does he have any more surgical follow up?
          Fish
          TC1
          Right I/O 4/22/1988
          RPLND 6/20/1988
          TC2
          Left I/O 9/17/2003
          Surveillance

          Tho' much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are; one equal temper of heroic hearts, made weak by time and fate, but strong in will; to strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.

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          • #6
            Chris had stomach problems also after his RPLND for a while, now over a year and he feels great...a couple of months ago he had bad stomach pains..went to the emergency room up at school...but they subsided...just worry now about what FISH just said,,,,the intestines sticking to the ab wall...would that develop this late...Mary Ellen

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            • #7
              cisplatin is out of our body with in days. We were told 72 hrs.
              Sounds like it might be from the surgery.

              May I ask what RPLND stands for?

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              • #8
                RPLND is the operation the do to remove the lymph nodes, it's short for Retroperitoneal Lymph Node Dissection. You can check out this link for more information.
                Son Jason diagnosed 4/30/04, stage III. Right I/O 4/30/04. Graduated College 5/13/04. 4XEP 6/7/04 - 8/13/04. Full open RPLND 10/13/04. All Clear since.

                Treated by Dr. Rakowski of Midland Park, NJ. Visited Sloan Kettering for protocol advice. RPLND done at Sloan Kettering.

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                • #9
                  I thought it was the Lympth node removal, but was not positive. It is something my husband did not have to go through so I was not fimilar with the term. thanks

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                  • #10
                    Thank you so much for your thoughts. We haven't called his Oncologist/Surgeon with these questions but he is scheduled for a check up in 2 weeks with his Oncologist so I'm sure we'll have some more answers then. Would it be possible for the RPLND effects to kick in 1 month after surgery? His original recovery was great with just about 0 stomach issues to follow. I've heard some people talk about the digestive system taking awhile to gain 100% normal functioning after that last round of chemo. I've also heard so many different things about how long the cisplatin/etoposide remains in the body. What I have learned most clearly through this very long road is that everyone is different. Does anyone have any more info on the adhesions FISH was talking about? This is new to me and I want to make sure I can either rule it out or understand that John's symptoms are in line with this condition.

                    Thanks for all your help, we appreciate it so much

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jilleighn
                      cisplatin is out of our body with in days. We were told 72 hrs.
                      This is note good info.. Traces of Cisplatin and other chemo drugs can be traced in the blood stream for up to 20 yrs in some cases for those who have endured more then the standard(still trying to figure out what is standard about it ) 3 rounds of BEP such as high dose and salvage chemo theraphy...
                      Moffitt Cancer Institute
                      CANCER SUCKS
                      Diagnosed/Left I/O 9/18/2004--Non-Seminoma/Stage IIIC--3X B.E.P chemo--3X T.I.P. Salvage chemo---Abdominal [email protected] 34cmX 24.5cmX 17.5cm---4/19/2005 --RPLND/Left Kidney,8 1/2lb Abdominal tumor,42 nodes removed---7/16/2005 Remission/Surveillance---Severe Peripheral Neuropathy--

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                      • #12
                        Mrose

                        I can't tell you anything about RPLND recovery and issues. I was not a canidate, and went directly to Chemo. I had originally started 3XBEP, but changed to 4XEP after side effects from the Bleo. I completed my Chemo 10/11/05, and by Christmas I was feeling like my old self. Now, I am actually feeling betting than I was before all this crap started. I think that is because I am taking so much better care of my health. I have cut back on the drinking, and have been trying so hard to quit smoking (down to 1/2 a pack a day), and exercising more. I think that if you drink more water that it helps to cleanse the system also. I drink a min. of 8 12oz bottles of water a day (and somtime a couple beers). Anyway, lets just be happy that this is such a curable type, and that each heathy day is a blessing.
                        Diagnosed 7/5/05, Rt. I/O 7/29/05, Nonseminoma Stage IIa, Started 3XBEP 9/06/05 changed to 4XEP due to reaction from Bleomycin. Currently surveillance.

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                        • #13
                          Yes, I agree with the previous gentleman's opinion re chemo followup reactions. Possibly another problem, get to a dermatologist or two for some opinions. I had allergic reactions to the chemo by consistent itchiness under the skin which ended within 2 weeks following chemo of 9 weeks. (1 full week of chemo times 3 with 2 one day sessions each of the following weeks and repeat for a total of 9 weeks.) This was fall of 2001. NO problems since last operation in Jan 2002 to remove grapefruit size tumor behind stomach with arms wrapped around uriter of kidney and aorta of heart, 13 hour surgery to remove. Jim Fiscus, of Pittsburgh, PA, now living in London, England.

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