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    OK, have heard the tell of no scuba after chemo. Is it true?

    Had TC and three cycles of B.E.P. and somewhere along the line had some clots shoot to my lungs. Dr. says no problems now. Thats been over 6 years ago.

    Getting the medical form from the local dive shop next week to send to my Dr and see if he thinks its OK. Until then just wanted your take on it.

    Thanks,
    Jason
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    Last edited by Caver101; 08-16-11, 08:19 PM.

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    It's the bleomycin. Try a Google search with the terms bleomycin and scuba diving, and you'll turn up a few useful reports on the first page of results. Certainly talk to your doctor about it.
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    • #3
      You may want to check this thread .
      Son Jason diagnosed 4/30/04, stage III. Right I/O 4/30/04. Graduated College 5/13/04. 4XEP 6/7/04 - 8/13/04. Full open RPLND 10/13/04. All Clear since.

      Treated by Dr. Rakowski of Midland Park, NJ. Visited Sloan Kettering for protocol advice. RPLND done at Sloan Kettering.

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      • #4
        Thanks. Been hitting google since last night. Lots of conflicting reports so far.

        Definitely getting cleared with Dr before diving.

        Sent email to DAN to get a referral to a Dr specializing in dive medicine too.

        From preliminary research and my wife talking to a pulmonologist (and diver) at work looks like I would be restricted to either 30 or 60 feet "IF" I get clearance.
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        Last edited by Caver101; 08-16-11, 08:19 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Caver101
          Thanks. Been hitting google since last night. Lots of conflicting reports so far.

          Definitely getting cleared with Dr before diving.

          Sent email to DAN to get a referral to a Dr specializing in dive medicine too.

          From preliminary research and my wife talking to a pulmonologist (and diver) at work looks like I would be restricted to either 30 or 60 feet "IF" I get clearance.
          Also, check with your life insurance. Not to sound morbid, but my father has a heart condition and he is not allowed to do certain things and if he does...and god forbid something were to happen to him, the life insurance would be void. Hope this helps.
          Co-survivor with husband Boyce, Diagnosed 7-11-06, orchiectomy right testicle on 7-12-06- Stage 3A: Mixed germ cell tumor with inguinal seminomatous and kartotypic carcinoma. One tumor over 10 cm, second tumor 4 cm, Chemo 4xBEP: Bi-lateral RPLND Dec 2006, nerve sparing but left sterile.
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          Current testosterone replacement therapy, Testim.

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          • #6
            Thanks Marget! Had not thought to check that, will do.
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            Last edited by Caver101; 08-16-11, 08:19 PM.

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            • #7
              You learn something new every day. I never thought to get clearance from a doctor before diving nor did I ever hear anything about chemo and diving. Maybe its because I started diving about 10 years after treatment. Well I'm still here so I guess in my case it didn't cause any problems. But be safe and find out the facts first.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Scott
                It's the bleomycin.
                Scott is absolutely right. Bleo doesn't degrade when it passes through the lungs, and the high oxygen concentration from the tank can activate any leftover bleo and cause damage to the lungs. It is essential that you get clearance from a doc before you attempt any of this.
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                • #9
                  Jason:
                  The most colorful diving you will ever do will be above 60ft. Just make sure you get clearance from a pulmonoligest. Be deciplined when you dive and have a dive buddy who will make sure you don't go too deep. It wouldn't be a bad idea to mention the depth situation to your dive master.
                  Last edited by dadmo; 08-29-07, 07:49 PM.
                  Son Jason diagnosed 4/30/04, stage III. Right I/O 4/30/04. Graduated College 5/13/04. 4XEP 6/7/04 - 8/13/04. Full open RPLND 10/13/04. All Clear since.

                  Treated by Dr. Rakowski of Midland Park, NJ. Visited Sloan Kettering for protocol advice. RPLND done at Sloan Kettering.

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                  • #10
                    I am glad to hear that you are taking it seriously. Russell has the toxicity and I can tell you that you don't want it!! Sharon
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                    • #11
                      Margaret, what a great point about the insurance (and a beautiful new avitar too )! With bleo you need to be careful with diving if your doc agrees, and you also need to make sure it is known that you had bleo if you ever are hospitalized for surgery or on oxygen.
                      Retired moderator. Husband, left I/O 16Dec2005, stage I seminoma with elevated b-HCG, no LVI, RTx15 (25Gy). All clear ever since.

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                      • #12
                        You have to be very careful with bleo in the lungs, especially if you have bleo modules.

                        I've seen what happens when the bleo modules or bleo in the lungs is hit with a large concentration of oxygen; not fun.
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                        • #13
                          This conversation links to this post Karen made in the Research Library forum.
                          Scott, [email protected]
                          right inguinal orchiectomy 6/5/2003 > nonseminoma, stage I > surveillance > L-RPLND 6/24/2005 for recurrence, suspected teratoma but found seminoma, stage II > chylous ascites until 9/2005 > surveillance and "all clear" since


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                          • #14
                            Its been a LONG time since I last logged into the site. I pretty much gave up my quest for scuba after talking to my Dr. But I got my 9 year check-up in Feb 2010 and the Dr told me I as in the best shape he has ever seen me. Gave me a clean bill of health and told me to have a great life.

                            I am just starting my research again. Has there been any new research published in the past few years I need to be aware of? (I did 3 cycles of BEP and had PE's go to my lungs).

                            I have had no issues with my lungs for 9 years. Heck, now I ride about 100+ miles a week on my road and mtn bikes with no issue. I am hoping for clearance from the Dr. this time around
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                            Last edited by Caver101; 08-16-11, 08:19 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Couldn't find the full article, you'll have to register here, but I think it'll be worth the time:

                              Testicular cancer is the most frequent malignant disease in men aged 15–40 years. Due to its sensitivity to chemotherapeutic drugs, most patients, including those with widespread metastatic disease, can now be cured. Bleomycin is an essential component of the most effective chemotherapy regimen for testicular cancer—ie, bleomycin, etoposide, and cisplatin [BEP].1 However, bleomycin is feared for its induction of bleomycin-induced pneumonitis (BIP), which is sometimes fatal.2 After reports in the 1980s of perioperative complications that were ascribed to bleomycin, high inspired-oxygen fractions during anaesthesia were avoided, as were high inspired-oxygen fractions under hyperbaric circumstances, such as scuba diving.

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