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  • nomis
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    eh, this isnt my endo who tells me this BTW, its just my GP! She is pretty good tho she was the the one who diagnosed me. She also is cool with me searching out different opinions on TRT etc on the internet as long as I " read between the lines" as she says! ie dont sign up for some $1000 "miracle" potion! she will then discuss any info I obtain with me.
    Unfortunately she also has no idea why Tostran ( & Testim) have this non drying substance included!

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  • Davepet
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    Yeah, I'd like a doc with that attitude. There isn't even an endo less than an hour away from me & less than 3 or 4 to choose from at that distance.
    Last edited by Davepet; 11-16-10, 03:54 AM.

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  • Andycoles
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    Originally posted by nomis View Post
    My doc is of the opinion that the way I feel is more important than the actual numbers.
    Oh my god, your doc sounds like an absolute HERO . Where do I sign up? You are the first person I've heard say that! Most seem to concentrate on the numbers.

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  • nomis
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    I get my levels checked every two months (T & E20 & PSA done every 6 months. My doc is of the opinion that the way I feel is more important than the actual numbers.
    It is strange how these gels seem affect people differently ( absorbsion & drying)
    Ive actually written to Prostrakan ( makers of Tostran) & while perhaps surprisingly, they did reply, they really werent interested. They just told me they had never heard of such a problem. full stop!
    I keep hoping for Acruxs new underarm TRT to be available

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  • Davepet
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    Originally posted by nomis View Post
    dave, this is what I do really, its still not ideal tho having to rub a gel for 10 mins when its advertised as "a fast drying hydroalcohlic gel" I suppose it depends on your definition of "fast drying"
    ive found if I dress ( even using this method) within 30 mins, my T levels are substantially lower than if I wait for a couple of hours for it to dry ( only possible while on holiday!)
    im talking about a drop from low 20's to 10 or 12.
    i still feel ok but you can see this is a serious flaw in the gels make up that could be so easily fixed!
    Interesting, nomis, this is what I want to find out.

    Personally, I have no idea what my T levels are, except for one test 6 months after I started, which my doc said were "within normal" range. Based on how I feel, I see no difference in how long I rub it in or how long I wait to get dressed.

    I find the gel is mostly absorbed after about one minute of rubbing & that dressing 5 minutes later I have no sticky problems with my clothing. Everyone's different, & that is what I'm trying to find out with this post.

    Thanks for contributing.

    Dave

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  • nomis
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    dave, this is what I do really, its still not ideal tho having to rub a gel for 10 mins when its advertised as "a fast drying hydroalcohlic gel" I suppose it depends on your definition of "fast drying"
    ive found if I dress ( even using this method) within 30 mins, my T levels are substantially lower than if I wait for a couple of hours for it to dry ( only possible while on holiday!)
    im talking about a drop from low 20's to 10 or 12.
    i still feel ok but you can see this is a serious flaw in the gels make up that could be so easily fixed!

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  • Davepet
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    Testim users that have problems with stickiness, try this & report back:
    Keep rubbing the gel in until there is no longer a "slippery" feeling & then rub a little longer (it will feel a bit sticky at this point), then leave it alone for 5 or 10 minutes & get dressed. I haven't had a shirt stick to me for ages now using this technique. I'm curious to see if it works for anyone else...

    Dave

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  • nomis
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    Originally posted by nickohs View Post
    I thought I'd better try Testim, partly because I am told it is stropnger than Androgel, but also because I wanted to experience what everyone was saying. It is DAMN sticky!

    Due to a mix-up with my pharmacy, I ended up with a combo of Testogel, which is the same as Androgel and Testim.

    I tried the Testim and it was sticky first day having got ready for the day as I would for Testogel.
    The next day, I had time to burn, so I left my shirt off for a couple of hours. Sadly it was still sticky.

    Today, I thought I'd see what a mix did. I applied Testogel first, then applied Testim. Hey Presto the stickiness was almost eliminated!

    Perhaps the answer therefore is to get an alcohol based gel that dries quickly and use it as a non-sticky transport for Testim.

    I am in touch with the Testim people in the UK so will be discussing this with them. I'll let you know what I find out.

    Nick
    Hi Nick, did you ever get an answer from the makers of testim about why they include the ingredient that stops the drying? Im keen to know as its probably the same stuff as is in Tostran gel. Maybe if we knew, we could then find some other (safe) substance to add & speed up the drying times!

    Simon

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  • groundhog
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    Reviving this thread to follow-up on my post of a couple of months ago, after I'd just switched to Androgel from Testim. Definitely prefer Androgel. Apart from being virtually odorless and drying quickly, I've found it more effective than Testim, as far as increased libido (i.e., horniness). Testim was OK. The pump is also more convenient for varying the dosage. If I'm traveling for any length of time, as I was last month, I use a little less.

    I think Testim's selling point was packaging--the little tubes. In response, Androgel introduced plastic sachets, like Chinese take-out condiments, for those who prefer this. Otherwise, Testim--w/ its unpleasant smell and stickiness--seems like a step backwards.

    Groundhog

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  • Davepet
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    I have been using testim only 9 months now. I have had times when my shirt stuck to me, but most of the time it does not. I suspect that it needs to be rubbed in better to avoid the stickiness, but have not real data to back that up.

    Dave

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  • 34with1
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    I have been using Testim for about 5 years. It definitely does take a routine to get it on and have it dry. I have found that standing in the steamy bathroom after I shower and expecting it to dry completely is useless, so I too walk around the house without a shirt for anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes, stopping whenever I find a ceiling fan I will try the second rub-in a few minutes later - seems like a good idea.

    Propylene glycol is an alcohol, and most alcohols are carcinogens. We just can't ever get away from it, huh? It's used as a solvent for whatever else is in the gel.

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  • nomis
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    Ive posted before about this same problem with Tostran Gel. I read an article recently that said the reason these two gels dont dry is due to a chemical called Propylene Glycol that (for some bizarre reason!) is added to the ingredients!
    The article goes on to say that this chemical is potentially carcinogenic!

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  • groundhog
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    Never tried gweides's solution, but I found applying small amounts of Testim at a time and massaging it in vigorously worked OK. I would wait about five minutes before putting a shirt on. But even then there would sometimes be some stickiness.

    I never got used to the unpleasant, musky smell of the product, tho', and it took a lot longer than five minutes to fade.

    My prescription expired after six months, and I'm now on Androgel. It's only been about ten days, so I can't really testify to its effectiveness, but it definitely has a higher alcohol content and dries much more quickly. It's also virtually odorless. I really appreciate not having that nasty smell lingering in the a.m. Don't know why Testim adds it to the product.

    My $.02. I'll report back after I've been on Adrogel a couple of months.

    Groundhog

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  • gweides
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    Solution

    I have found that this gets rid of the sticky syndrome...
    1..rub in till you think its dry
    2. wait a few minutes
    3. rub it in again

    the second rub seems to get rid of the sticky mess and shirts no longer stick to me.

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  • MRM
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    I use Testim and don't have any problems with long-term stickiness. I rub it very briskly on my shoulders. Once it dries fully, I have almost no stickiness, certaily not enough to make my shirts stick.

    I wonder why some people have problems and others don't. I apply 2 tubes a day.

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