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    Ever since I finished my first week of treatment last Friday, the 26th of May, I have been experiencing some moderate ringing in my ears with occasional severe ringing from time to time. I can also tell that I've lost a good deal of my high frequency hearing. I general, it feels/sounds like I have a very bad cold and I'm just waiting for them to "pop" so I can hear normally again. My sinuses are clear (clearer than usual even) so I doubt it's related to allergies.

    I told my Onclologist about this today and he's definitely concerned about it. He's going to send me to an Audiologist in a day or so to get checked out. He said he's worried that I'm having such an immediate and noticeable reaction to the Cisplatin and that I elected to go with 4 cycles instead of 3 to avoid the Bleo. He's even talking about the remote possibility of switching to Carboplatin even though it's not nearly as effective as Cisplatin. (I don't think he's really considering this and I'm not sure that I would agree, it was just something he mentioned.)

    Has anyone else had a similar experience with their hearing? The ringing I can handle but the hearing loss and muffled hearing have me worried.

    Is this usually a temporary thing, like hair loss, that will eventually recover with time once I finish chemo?

    Dave
    Last edited by Dave40306; 05-31-06, 04:13 PM.
    TC diagnosed 4/3/06, [email protected]; Left I/O 4/10/06; Stage IIa Non-Seminoma, 100% Yolk Sac; Started 4xEP 5/22/06 with [email protected]; Finshed 4xEP 8/11, AFP normal, CT scans clear! Now on surveillance

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    Dave:
    The the ear ringing should be temporary. Jason had moderate ringing the second week of every cycle and as soon as the chemo was do he was fine.
    Son Jason diagnosed 4/30/04, stage III. Right I/O 4/30/04. Graduated College 5/13/04. 4XEP 6/7/04 - 8/13/04. Full open RPLND 10/13/04. All Clear since.

    Treated by Dr. Rakowski of Midland Park, NJ. Visited Sloan Kettering for protocol advice. RPLND done at Sloan Kettering.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by dadmo
      Dave:
      The the ear ringing should be temporary. Jason had moderate ringing the second week of every cycle and as soon as the chemo was do he was fine.
      Did he also mention that his hearing was "muffled" along with the ringing?

      Dave
      TC diagnosed 4/3/06, [email protected]; Left I/O 4/10/06; Stage IIa Non-Seminoma, 100% Yolk Sac; Started 4xEP 5/22/06 with [email protected]; Finshed 4xEP 8/11, AFP normal, CT scans clear! Now on surveillance

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      • #4
        No he never had the muffled effect. Just simple ringing.
        Son Jason diagnosed 4/30/04, stage III. Right I/O 4/30/04. Graduated College 5/13/04. 4XEP 6/7/04 - 8/13/04. Full open RPLND 10/13/04. All Clear since.

        Treated by Dr. Rakowski of Midland Park, NJ. Visited Sloan Kettering for protocol advice. RPLND done at Sloan Kettering.

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        • #5
          Dave,

          I think my experience was similar to what you're describing. I had some symptoms that started right after the first five days, ringing and reduced high-frequency hearing. It seemed to mostly disappear before the start of the next cycle, then would come back a bit after getting more chemo. It was worst for me in the week following the first five days in my third (and last) cycle. I still have some ringing, and sometimes things just sound weird to me, particularly listening to others talk.

          I'm only two weeks removed from the end of my 3xBEP chemo, but from the improvement I've already noticed, I expect all or most of the hearing loss to go away eventually. Even if it didn't improve at all from where it is now, I don't think it would affect my quality of life at all.

          Something weird I've noticed: to me it sounds like the very high-frequency stuff (> 5 kHz) is still there along with the low-frequency stuff (< 1 kHz). If anything, I'd say it's like a bandpass filter where some of the middle frequency range is blocked.

          I'd be very concerned about making any changes mid-chemo. Definitely get a second opinion on that.

          -TSX

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          • #6
            My hearing was all screwed during chemo.. I remember the muffeling of sound the most..everthing sounds like Charlie Browns teacher....I still remember my wife yelling at me every night to lower the volume on the TV.. I finally had to by a pear of wireless headphones for the TV... Don't worry to much as all have said it will go away.. However you can always have a reoccurence when your wife is giving you a hard time or something.. WHAT???WHAT??? I CAN"T HEAR YOU!!!!!!! Stay Stong and Positive Dave!!!!! DON
            Moffitt Cancer Institute
            CANCER SUCKS
            Diagnosed/Left I/O 9/18/2004--Non-Seminoma/Stage IIIC--3X B.E.P chemo--3X T.I.P. Salvage chemo---Abdominal [email protected] 34cmX 24.5cmX 17.5cm---4/19/2005 --RPLND/Left Kidney,8 1/2lb Abdominal tumor,42 nodes removed---7/16/2005 Remission/Surveillance---Severe Peripheral Neuropathy--

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            • #7
              Guys,

              Thanks for the quick responses.

              TSX - I understand what you're saying about the bandpass filter effect. I'm really into music and home theater and have always valued my good hearing and "discriminating" ear when it comes to sound quality. That's probably why I'm worried about it and told my Onc. that I am loosing some hearing. Other people might not even really notice it. And,there'll be no changes in my chemo unless someone has a VERY good reason for it.

              Don - The TV thing has already started to happen to me too. Last night my wife must have said "turn the TV down" at least 3 times and I usually listen to it at a good level anyway so it must have been loud.

              Thanks again. This forum is great!

              Staying Strong and Positive,

              Dave
              TC diagnosed 4/3/06, [email protected]; Left I/O 4/10/06; Stage IIa Non-Seminoma, 100% Yolk Sac; Started 4xEP 5/22/06 with [email protected]; Finshed 4xEP 8/11, AFP normal, CT scans clear! Now on surveillance

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              • #8
                i have had ringing in my ears for a couple of years now. which was before i was diagnosed and i didn't have chemo. i was checked by an ear, nose and throat doc before being diagnosed and he said he couldn't find anything wrong and prescribed me with steroids, that i never took. it still comes and goes sometimes worst than some but i always thought it was some kind of sinus issue even though i really don't have sinus problems. could this all be something related to the cancer we had in the "boys"? oh well.....anyone hear me??????? huh, what!!!
                diagnosed 01/15/2005 bi-lateral seminoma stage IIa,4cm lymph node, right I/O & partial left I/O mar/2005, 18 days of radiation, remaining left I/O- aug/2005, surveillance, Wife did IVF oct/2005, DAD OF BABY GIRL born 08-02-2006!!! testosterone implants May 2008

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                • #9
                  the ringing for me started within the first cycle and it continues today, 8 months after treatment. iit's pretty high pitched and it's annoying as crap but there are worse things in life.
                  Age 33, Right I/O Mar '05, 90% embryonal, 10% teratocarcinoma, Surv until 4 mo CT (+), 3 x BEP Aug/Sep '05, CT 10/05 ok, CT 2/06 ok, CT 3/06 ok, CT 6/06 ok, X-Ray, Blood 8/06 ok, Sperm Count 09/06: Low but active, CT 10/06 ok, X-ray 12/06 ok, CT 02/07 ok, X-ray/blood 4/07 ok, CT 6/07 ok, X-ray/blood 09/07, CT 10/07 ok, CT 4/08 ok, CT 10/08 ok

                  LAST NIGHT I DREAMT 1000 LIES
                  I CAN SEE THE DAWN
                  THROUGH A DIFFERENT SET OF EYES

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                  • #10
                    Dave,
                    I had some mild tinnitus before chemo. After chemo, it was much worse and I've experienced the "muffling" that you describe, especially when I'm riding in the car with my wife (though it may be due to the reason Don has cited).

                    I'm 7 months post-chemo and the tinnitus ranges from barely noticeable to a loud gathering of ringing and clicking noises in my head. I have read that cisplatin can cause hearing damage. To agree with Apache, after having stage III cancer I've come to appreciate just walking around, tinnitus or not.
                    Left I/O 6/24/05
                    100% Embryonal Cell Carcinoma, Stage III
                    4xBEP August - October 2005
                    Surveillance since Nov. 2005

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                    • #11
                      Dave:
                      When Jason began to have ringing the doctor told him to drink more fluids. Just keep sipping on something all day and flush that poison out as fast as you can.
                      Son Jason diagnosed 4/30/04, stage III. Right I/O 4/30/04. Graduated College 5/13/04. 4XEP 6/7/04 - 8/13/04. Full open RPLND 10/13/04. All Clear since.

                      Treated by Dr. Rakowski of Midland Park, NJ. Visited Sloan Kettering for protocol advice. RPLND done at Sloan Kettering.

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                      • #12
                        I had ringing in the ears all through chemo -- a low-level ringing that would randomly get louder in one ear for about 30 seconds at a time -- but no noticeable loss of hearing. It was worse right after a week of treatment. My doctor gave me ethyol to combat the the tinnitus, but that's not typical. I've never heard of anyone else receiving it and I can't say for sure if it helped. Maybe the ringing would have been worse without the ethyol. It's not as bad now, five months post-chemo, or maybe I've just gotten used to it.
                        Left I/O 5/9/05, 100% Embryonal Call Carcinoma, Stage IIIa, Laparoscopic RPLND 7/19/05, 4X EP 9/05-11/05

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                        • #13
                          yes, i'm a week from my 3rd cycle of 4XBEP and i have the 30 second ringers with hearing loss as well. and, i hope listening to music at an escelated volume doesen't make that worse or i'm in trouble.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ryan1
                            yes, i'm a week from my 3rd cycle of 4XBEP and i have the 30 second ringers with hearing loss as well. and, i hope listening to music at an escelated volume doesen't make that worse or i'm in trouble.
                            I have been experiencing this as well - just finished first week of BEP and had second Bleo today.

                            Dr. Vaughn recommended that I avoid any loud sound. I am inferring that increasing listening volume of electronics is not a good idea.
                            Diagnosed 3/6/07, Left orchiectomy, 100% Embryonal Carcinoma with lymph nodes detected via CT. 3x BEP started 3/26/07 at UPenn (Vaughn), "all clear" on 5/28/07. Surveillance since.
                            Life is what happens when you're busy making plans.

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                            • #15
                              hi

                              i want to add something about these ringings! on the last day of my first 5 day cycle of bep day, these ringings began and they affected me very differently. i had no hearing loss and they had tested my ears are preety good (for now) the sounds around me not diminished; on the contrary, they started to annoy me. i shouted at everyone at home not to scream or shout. it was really different experience for me. i will start second cycle monday and i pray that i wont have ringings in the last two cycles or hearring loss.
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                              27/07/07 diagnosed
                              30/07/07 Right I/O
                              path: 5.00 cm mass with EC %40 / Imm. ter. %30 / semin %20 / YS %10
                              no vaslucar inv./ no lymphatic inv/no metastis
                              Stage I-A
                              surveillance
                              24/10/07 CT showed 2 enlarged nodes
                              Stage II-B
                              markers:
                              27/07/07 B-hcg:202 /AFP:260
                              13/08/07 B-hcg:0.306 /AFP:32/ LHD:293
                              20/08/07 AFP:13.25
                              05/09/07 AFP:3.7
                              05/10/07 AFP:2.7 B-hcg:6.01
                              30/10/07 AFP:6.0 B-hcg:17

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