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    So, after chemo we still have in our body some cells with cancerous potential. That means that cells can take more ADN damage and convert into cancerous cells. The question is : what can we do to prevent it ??? First of all I think the antioxidands can minimize this risk. Second we have to go periodically thru a dieitic regime witch can turn the cancerous cells into a difficult situation tu survive. I've read about Breuss cancer cure and prevention and I think it's resonable. 2 weeks of juice cure per year I thik is all we need to prevent cancer recurrence. The deficit of glucose and protein are suficient to du that. I want to know your opinions about that.

    all the best
    2005-03
    Stage III EC 85% + Sem 15%
    AFP=2.6; HCG=10, 20,28 and rising
    FULL CAT scan:
    -abdominal lymph clear
    -subpleural lungs metastasis [bipulmonary lesions with diam <= 1cm]
    4 x BEP changed to 3 x BEP at my request
    from 2005-05....Surveillance

  • #2
    Adrian:
    What makes you think that you still have live cancer cells? Did your path report tell you that?
    Son Jason diagnosed 4/30/04, stage III. Right I/O 4/30/04. Graduated College 5/13/04. 4XEP 6/7/04 - 8/13/04. Full open RPLND 10/13/04. All Clear since.

    Treated by Dr. Rakowski of Midland Park, NJ. Visited Sloan Kettering for protocol advice. RPLND done at Sloan Kettering.

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    • #3
      Have you found any documented evidence that this diet makes a positive difference?
      Scott, [email protected]
      right inguinal orchiectomy 6/5/2003 > nonseminoma, stage I > surveillance > L-RPLND 6/24/2005 for recurrence, suspected teratoma but found seminoma, stage II > chylous ascites until 9/2005 > surveillance and "all clear" since


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      • #4
        !

        So, all of us have cancerous cells but they are balanced by immune system. Cancer is a cronic desease because the standard treatment cannot destroy all the C Cells. More of that , the chemo/radio itself inflict DNA demage to healthy and C Cells too. So, we, the cancer patients have more more cancerous and partial cancerous cells in our body than healty people. The immune system may suppres it for a period of time or for the all life. It's a russian rulet like game. Maybe it's wise for us to do something periodicaly....I don't know. It's just a question but we must consider it it's a very very important for us, cancer survivors. If you have some info please share it.


        [By the way, after 7 months I've done CT scan. Useless to say you what anxiety I felt. Scan : abdominalo pelvic + chest. The result : all it's CLEAR]
        [don't trust in XRays !!! It reveals the tumors when it's too late.]


        Best regards
        2005-03
        Stage III EC 85% + Sem 15%
        AFP=2.6; HCG=10, 20,28 and rising
        FULL CAT scan:
        -abdominal lymph clear
        -subpleural lungs metastasis [bipulmonary lesions with diam <= 1cm]
        4 x BEP changed to 3 x BEP at my request
        from 2005-05....Surveillance

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        • #5
          Originally posted by AdrianB1971
          [don't trust in XRays !!! It reveals the tumors when it's too late.]
          A chest x-ray is generally sufficient during surveillance. It can be performed more frequently, more conveniently, and at much less expense.
          Scott, [email protected]
          right inguinal orchiectomy 6/5/2003 > nonseminoma, stage I > surveillance > L-RPLND 6/24/2005 for recurrence, suspected teratoma but found seminoma, stage II > chylous ascites until 9/2005 > surveillance and "all clear" since


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          • #6
            Hi,

            I've also read some information about some natural products than can help body fight against cancer. Since they boost body immune function, any one are using or read about this ?

            Best regards
            Adjuvant 2x Carboplatin chemo 21/12/2005 and 11/1/2006
            Stage I Pure Seminoma 5,5cm no V/I no L/I 29/11/2005
            Right I/O 23/11/2005
            Found TC 22/11/2005

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            • #7
              Adrian:
              First, I’m really glad to hear your CT scans are all clear. While I personally think chest X-rays are sufficient, my oncologist also sends me for CT scans of the chest, abdomen and pelvis, I guess he thinks its easier to just deal with the CT rather than have a separate x-ray taken.

              Regarding the immune system…..
              There have been a multitude of claims over the years about products that boost immune function. Unfortunately, there have been few, if any, controlled scientific trials to verify those claims. It has also never been clear to me what exactly is meant by the phrase “boost immune function”. The immune system acts as a surveillance mechanism and responds when something is recognized as “non-self” (unfortunately, cancer cells are often not abnormal enough to be recognized). There are a number of possible responses, all of which are designed to eliminate the “non-self” from the body; whether or not anything can improve this process is open to debate. However, an overactive or mis-directed immune response is also not desirable ie: allergies, anaphylactic shock, rheumatoid arthritis, and a host of other serious conditions mediated by the immune system. Perhaps the best one can hope for is to maintain a healthy body (and therefore a healthy immune system), by eating a proper diet that supplies the appropriate levels of essential nutrients, vitamins, and minerals. I do try to keep an open mind regarding “immune boosters”, but I like to see controlled experiments that support the effectiveness of these treatments.

              That's my 2 cents.

              I hope you continue to get clear CT results.

              Best wishes,

              Jim
              Fish
              TC1
              Right I/O 4/22/1988
              RPLND 6/20/1988
              TC2
              Left I/O 9/17/2003
              Surveillance

              Tho' much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are; one equal temper of heroic hearts, made weak by time and fate, but strong in will; to strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.

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              • #8
                I am also currently on survelliance after by second seminoma on 11/03. I also have a CT scans for chest, pelvis, abdomen. (no X rays). I was having them every 3-4 months, recently it was changed to every 6 months.

                Cheers,

                Dan
                1995: Seminoma / Phase 1 / radiation
                2003: Seminoma / Phase 1 / surviellance / androgel

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                • #9
                  Can you imagine having a CT scan once every month, though, as in standard protocols for surveillance after an orchiectomy without other immediate treatment?
                  Scott, [email protected]
                  right inguinal orchiectomy 6/5/2003 > nonseminoma, stage I > surveillance > L-RPLND 6/24/2005 for recurrence, suspected teratoma but found seminoma, stage II > chylous ascites until 9/2005 > surveillance and "all clear" since


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                  • #10
                    Scott,

                    My protocol (Stage 1, seminoma) did not call for a chest X ray every month.

                    BTW, I read the your TC history on the many posts. I hope everything is well and I wish you best of luck in survellience. I am now over 2 years into it.

                    Cheers,

                    Dan
                    1995: Seminoma / Phase 1 / radiation
                    2003: Seminoma / Phase 1 / surviellance / androgel

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                    • #11
                      !?

                      In my case, the nontrust in XRays has just saved my life. After ochiectomy, the chest XRays sacan was very clear. Fortunately, the HCG has continued to raise and I've done CAT scan. 2 subpleural nodules was found!!!!! The treatment was started imediatly and the result was TOTAL SUCCESS. So, especialy for recurrence, the XRays are 70% useless.
                      2005-03
                      Stage III EC 85% + Sem 15%
                      AFP=2.6; HCG=10, 20,28 and rising
                      FULL CAT scan:
                      -abdominal lymph clear
                      -subpleural lungs metastasis [bipulmonary lesions with diam <= 1cm]
                      4 x BEP changed to 3 x BEP at my request
                      from 2005-05....Surveillance

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                      • #12
                        Adrian, I'm glad your recurrence was found early and treated, but if I read your post right, an elevated hCG tumor marker result was the signal and the CT scan was confirmation. I don't agree that x-rays are useless.
                        Scott, [email protected]
                        right inguinal orchiectomy 6/5/2003 > nonseminoma, stage I > surveillance > L-RPLND 6/24/2005 for recurrence, suspected teratoma but found seminoma, stage II > chylous ascites until 9/2005 > surveillance and "all clear" since


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                        • #13
                          I'm reading this topic now for some days and must say that I'm wondering from when X-Ray is useless for discovering TC ? IT IS POSSBILE that it will not find TC but it is also posible that CT or some other method will not find it.

                          I would be watchful before I would say that some treatement method is useless when more thousand people (doctors and patients) is relay on it.
                          Seminoma I. stage ,May 2004,Si Deus pro nobis quis contra nos

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                          • #14
                            I tried the breuss juice

                            Adrian

                            I don't know if you have tried the breuss juice. A company of natural products in my city sell this juice. I have tried one bottle and the taste is not very good. I don't know if i can have a cure of this during 2 weeks without eating or drinking something else. Do you think that we can at least drink a lot of water during the cure?
                            Eric

                            Stage 1 seminoma in august 2001
                            with invaded spermatic chord and treated with RT
                            Relapse november 2005, 4 BEP and now back to surveillance

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                            • #15
                              Water is not a fuel for cancer cells so you can drink how much you can [it's good for kidney].
                              2005-03
                              Stage III EC 85% + Sem 15%
                              AFP=2.6; HCG=10, 20,28 and rising
                              FULL CAT scan:
                              -abdominal lymph clear
                              -subpleural lungs metastasis [bipulmonary lesions with diam <= 1cm]
                              4 x BEP changed to 3 x BEP at my request
                              from 2005-05....Surveillance

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